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deafy Wednesday 13 March 2013 at 5:24
deafyAnonymous

OK... I 'll try ... ( I am a novice )

PlayonLinux 4.1.9 (Wine 1.3.30)  on Ubuntu 12.04
dunno which desktop

1. have three bottles installed - one bible program works OK - other two are of other program (PhotoUpz from PhotoUpz.com) - were installed and did work OK after installation startup ...
eversince then, they would not startup, but crashed everytime
"Error in main
PhotoUpz crashed."
have log file
2. even tho I do have 7z installed ... whenever I start up the PlayonLinux, it claims that I do not have it installed ... uh?

what do you need to know about my computer configuration?
Ronin DUSETTE Wednesday 13 March 2013 at 5:32
Ronin DUSETTE
Admin

32 bit or 64 bit?

Also, that is a really old version of WINE to be running with the current version of Ubuntu. Do you mean that you are running that version in PlayOnLinux, or is that the system version? The system version, if Im thinking right, should be at least 1.4

If you are running regular ubuntu 12.04, then you are running Unity.

Please post the log file.

or,

Run playonlinux from the command line, recreate the issue, and post the command line results.

If you are running Ubuntu, then you need:

p7zip-full

and I usually install

p7zip-rar

The terminal commands would be:

[code]sudo apt-get install p7zip-full p7zip-rar[/code]

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deafy Wednesday 13 March 2013 at 5:46
deafyAnonymous

thanks for replying and help!
installed the p7zip-rar
yes, it is 32 bit
yes, "Unity" seems familiar
not sure of where that wine is from, but I got that number when going theu PlayonLinux
Ubuntu seems to have another, as it shows up occassionaly that does not seem to be related to PlayonLinux ... I can go and install other wine ... which one should I use, from within the PlayonLinux?
how do I post the log file? hope it is ok I am copying and pasting it here below ...
[03/12/13 23:23:21] - Running wine- PhotoUpz.exe (Working directory : /home/dad/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/test/drive_c/Program Files/Photoupz)
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0000003c at address 0x401df9 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x0000003c in 32-bit code (0x00401df9).
err:dbghelp_msc:pe_load_debug_directory Got a page fault while loading symbols
Register dump:
CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
EIP:00401df9 ESP:0032f1b0 EBP:0032fe28 EFLAGS:00010212( R- -- I -A- - )
EAX:00000000 EBX:7b894ff4 ECX:00000000 EDX:00000000
ESI:7ffdf000 EDI:0040ffef
Stack dump:
0x0032f1b0: 0040ffef 7ffdf000 00000000 00000000
0x0032f1c0: 00000000 00000000 004bdc28 ffffffff
0x0032f1d0: ffffffff 4b000000 0032f7e8 0032fdb8
0x0032f1e0: ffffffff ffffffff 4b000000 0032f7e8
0x0032f1f0: 0032f9f4 ffffffff ffffffff 50000000
0x0032f200: 0032f7e8 0032fdb8 ffffffff ffffffff
Backtrace:
=>0 0x00401df9 in photoupz (+0x1df9) (0x0032fe28)
1 0x0040ff98 in photoupz (+0xff97) (0x0032fe70)
2 0x7b859cdc call_process_entry+0xb() in kernel32 (0x0032fe88)
3 0x7b85af4f in kernel32 (+0x4af4e) (0x0032fec8)
4 0x7bc71db0 call_thread_func_wrapper+0xb() in ntdll (0x0032fed8)
5 0x7bc7486d call_thread_func+0x7c() in ntdll (0x0032ffa8)
6 0x7bc71d8e RtlRaiseException+0x21() in ntdll (0x0032ffc8)
7 0x7bc49f4e call_dll_entry_point+0x61d() in ntdll (0x0032ffe8)
0x00401df9: movl     0x3c(%ecx),%edx
Modules:
Module     Address               Debug info     Name (22 modules)
PE      400000- 4bb000     Export photoupz
ELF     2002b000-200b8000     Deferred msvcrt
\\-PE     20040000-200b8000     \\ msvcrt
ELF     200b8000-200e7000     Deferred msvcr90
\\-PE     200c0000-200e7000     \\ msvcr90
ELF     200e7000-201cc000     Deferred msvcp90
\\-PE     20110000-201cc000     \\ msvcp90
ELF     68000000-68022000     Deferred ld-linux.so.2
ELF     68022000-68164000     Dwarf libwine.so.1
ELF     68164000-6817f000     Deferred libpthread.so.0
ELF     6817f000-68184000     Deferred libdl.so.2
ELF     68184000-681b0000     Deferred libm.so.6
ELF     681b0000-681b9000     Deferred libnss_compat.so.2
ELF     681b9000-681c5000     Deferred libnss_nis.so.2
ELF     681c5000-681d2000     Deferred libnss_files.so.2
ELF     6bc31000-6bc4b000     Deferred libnsl.so.1
ELF     7b800000-7ba15000     Dwarf kernel32
\\-PE     7b810000-7ba15000     \\ kernel32
ELF     7bc00000-7bcc3000     Dwarf ntdll
\\-PE     7bc10000-7bcc3000     \\ ntdll
ELF     7bf00000-7bf04000     Deferred
ELF     7c4e0000-7c68a000     Deferred libc.so.6
Threads:
process tid prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) C:\\Program Files\\Photoupz\\PhotoUpz.exe
     00000009 0 <==
0000000e services.exe
     0000001f 0
     0000001e 0
     00000018 0
     00000017 0
     00000015 0
     00000010 0
     0000000f 0
00000012 winedevice.exe
     0000001a 0
     00000019 0
     00000014 0
     00000013 0
0000001b plugplay.exe
     00000020 0
     0000001d 0
     0000001c 0
00000023 explorer.exe
     00000024 0
[03/12/13 23:26:22] - Running wine- PhotoUpz.exe (Working directory : /home/dad/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/test/drive_c/Program Files/Photoupz)
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0000003c at address 0x401df9 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x0000003c in 32-bit code (0x00401df9).
err:dbghelp_msc:pe_load_debug_directory Got a page fault while loading symbols
Register dump:
CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
EIP:00401df9 ESP:0032f1b0 EBP:0032fe28 EFLAGS:00010212( R- -- I -A- - )
EAX:00000000 EBX:7b894ff4 ECX:00000000 EDX:00000000
ESI:7ffdf000 EDI:0040ffef
Stack dump:
0x0032f1b0: 0040ffef 7ffdf000 00000000 00000000
0x0032f1c0: 00000000 00000000 004bdc28 ffffffff
0x0032f1d0: ffffffff 4b000000 0032f7e8 0032fdb8
0x0032f1e0: ffffffff ffffffff 4b000000 0032f7e8
0x0032f1f0: 0032f9f4 ffffffff ffffffff 50000000
0x0032f200: 0032f7e8 0032fdb8 ffffffff ffffffff
Backtrace:
=>0 0x00401df9 in photoupz (+0x1df9) (0x0032fe28)
1 0x0040ff98 in photoupz (+0xff97) (0x0032fe70)
2 0x7b859cdc call_process_entry+0xb() in kernel32 (0x0032fe88)
3 0x7b85af4f in kernel32 (+0x4af4e) (0x0032fec8)
4 0x7bc71db0 call_thread_func_wrapper+0xb() in ntdll (0x0032fed8)
5 0x7bc7486d call_thread_func+0x7c() in ntdll (0x0032ffa8)
6 0x7bc71d8e RtlRaiseException+0x21() in ntdll (0x0032ffc8)
7 0x7bc49f4e call_dll_entry_point+0x61d() in ntdll (0x0032ffe8)
0x00401df9: movl     0x3c(%ecx),%edx
Modules:
Module     Address               Debug info     Name (22 modules)
PE      400000- 4bb000     Export photoupz
ELF     2002b000-2005a000     Deferred msvcr90
\\-PE     20030000-2005a000     \\ msvcr90
ELF     53d23000-53db0000     Deferred msvcrt
\\-PE     53d40000-53db0000     \\ msvcrt
ELF     60c32000-60d17000     Deferred msvcp90
\\-PE     60c50000-60d17000     \\ msvcp90
ELF     68000000-68142000     Dwarf libwine.so.1
ELF     68142000-6815d000     Deferred libpthread.so.0
ELF     6815d000-68307000     Deferred libc.so.6
ELF     68307000-6830c000     Deferred libdl.so.2
ELF     6830c000-68338000     Deferred libm.so.6
ELF     68338000-68341000     Deferred libnss_compat.so.2
ELF     68341000-6835b000     Deferred libnsl.so.1
ELF     6835b000-68367000     Deferred libnss_nis.so.2
ELF     68367000-68374000     Deferred libnss_files.so.2
ELF     7696a000-7698c000     Deferred ld-linux.so.2
ELF     7b800000-7ba15000     Dwarf kernel32
\\-PE     7b810000-7ba15000     \\ kernel32
ELF     7bc00000-7bcc3000     Dwarf ntdll
\\-PE     7bc10000-7bcc3000     \\ ntdll
ELF     7bf00000-7bf04000     Deferred
Threads:
process tid prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) C:\\Program Files\\Photoupz\\PhotoUpz.exe
     00000009 0 <==
0000000e services.exe
     0000001f 0
     0000001e 0
     00000018 0
     00000017 0
     00000015 0
     00000010 0
     0000000f 0
00000012 winedevice.exe
     0000001c 0
     00000019 0
     00000014 0
     00000013 0
0000001a plugplay.exe
     00000020 0
     0000001d 0
     0000001b 0
00000023 explorer.exe
     00000024 0
[03/12/13 23:27:02] - Running wine- PhotoUpz.exe (Working directory : /home/dad/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/test/drive_c/Program Files/Photoupz)
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0000003c at address 0x401df9 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x0000003c in 32-bit code (0x00401df9).
err:dbghelp_msc:pe_load_debug_directory Got a page fault while loading symbols
Register dump:
CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
EIP:00401df9 ESP:0032f1b0 EBP:0032fe28 EFLAGS:00210212( R- -- I -A- - )
EAX:00000000 EBX:7b894ff4 ECX:00000000 EDX:00000000
ESI:7ffdf000 EDI:0040ffef
Stack dump:
0x0032f1b0: 0040ffef 7ffdf000 00000000 00000000
0x0032f1c0: 00000000 00000000 004bde50 ffffffff
0x0032f1d0: ffffffff 4b000000 0032f7e8 0032fdb8
0x0032f1e0: ffffffff ffffffff 4b000000 0032f7e8
0x0032f1f0: 0032f9f4 ffffffff ffffffff 50000000
0x0032f200: 0032f7e8 0032fdb8 ffffffff ffffffff
Backtrace:
=>0 0x00401df9 in photoupz (+0x1df9) (0x0032fe28)
1 0x0040ff98 in photoupz (+0xff97) (0x0032fe70)
2 0x7b859cdc call_process_entry+0xb() in kernel32 (0x0032fe88)
3 0x7b85af4f in kernel32 (+0x4af4e) (0x0032fec8)
4 0x7bc71db0 call_thread_func_wrapper+0xb() in ntdll (0x0032fed8)
5 0x7bc7486d call_thread_func+0x7c() in ntdll (0x0032ffa8)
6 0x7bc71d8e RtlRaiseException+0x21() in ntdll (0x0032ffc8)
7 0x7bc49f4e call_dll_entry_point+0x61d() in ntdll (0x0032ffe8)
0x00401df9: movl     0x3c(%ecx),%edx
Modules:
Module     Address               Debug info     Name (22 modules)
PE      400000- 4bb000     Export photoupz
ELF     34076000-3415b000     Deferred msvcp90
\\-PE     340a0000-3415b000     \\ msvcp90
ELF     4ad8f000-4adbe000     Deferred msvcr90
\\-PE     4ada0000-4adbe000     \\ msvcr90
ELF     4b872000-4b8ff000     Deferred msvcrt
\\-PE     4b890000-4b8ff000     \\ msvcrt
ELF     68000000-68022000     Deferred ld-linux.so.2
ELF     68022000-68164000     Dwarf libwine.so.1
ELF     68164000-6817f000     Deferred libpthread.so.0
ELF     6817f000-68329000     Deferred libc.so.6
ELF     68329000-6832e000     Deferred libdl.so.2
ELF     6832e000-6835a000     Deferred libm.so.6
ELF     6835a000-68363000     Deferred libnss_compat.so.2
ELF     68363000-6837d000     Deferred libnsl.so.1
ELF     6837d000-6838a000     Deferred libnss_files.so.2
ELF     7a598000-7a5a4000     Deferred libnss_nis.so.2
ELF     7b800000-7ba15000     Dwarf kernel32
\\-PE     7b810000-7ba15000     \\ kernel32
ELF     7bc00000-7bcc3000     Dwarf ntdll
\\-PE     7bc10000-7bcc3000     \\ ntdll
ELF     7bf00000-7bf04000     Deferred
Threads:
process tid prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) C:\\Program Files\\Photoupz\\PhotoUpz.exe
     00000009 0 <==
0000000e services.exe
     0000001f 0
     0000001e 0
     00000018 0
     00000017 0
     00000015 0
     00000010 0
     0000000f 0
00000012 winedevice.exe
     0000001c 0
     00000019 0
     00000014 0
     00000013 0
0000001a plugplay.exe
     00000020 0
     0000001d 0
     0000001b 0
00000023 explorer.exe
     00000024 0
[03/12/13 23:54:52] - Running wine- PhotoUpz.exe (Working directory : /home/dad/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/test/drive_c/Program Files/Photoupz)
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0000003c at address 0x401df9 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
[03/12/13 23:59:55] - Running wine- PhotoUpz.exe (Working directory : /home/dad/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/test/drive_c/Program Files/Photoupz)
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0000003c at address 0x401df9 (thread 0028), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x0000003c in 32-bit code (0x00401df9).
err:dbghelp_msc:pe_load_debug_directory Got a page fault while loading symbols
Register dump:
CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
EIP:00401df9 ESP:0032f1b0 EBP:0032fe28 EFLAGS:00010212( R- -- I -A- - )
EAX:00000000 EBX:7b894ff4 ECX:00000000 EDX:00000000
ESI:7ffdf000 EDI:0040ffef
Stack dump:
0x0032f1b0: 0040ffef 7ffdf000 00000000 00000000
0x0032f1c0: 00000000 00000000 004bde48 ffffffff
0x0032f1d0: ffffffff 4b000000 0032f7e8 0032fdb8
0x0032f1e0: ffffffff ffffffff 4b000000 0032f7e8
0x0032f1f0: 0032f9f4 ffffffff ffffffff 50000000
0x0032f200: 0032f7e8 0032fdb8 ffffffff ffffffff
Backtrace:
=>0 0x00401df9 in photoupz (+0x1df9) (0x0032fe28)
1 0x0040ff98 in photoupz (+0xff97) (0x0032fe70)
2 0x7b859cdc call_process_entry+0xb() in kernel32 (0x0032fe88)
3 0x7b85af4f in kernel32 (+0x4af4e) (0x0032fec8)
4 0x7bc71db0 call_thread_func_wrapper+0xb() in ntdll (0x0032fed8)
5 0x7bc7486d call_thread_func+0x7c() in ntdll (0x0032ffa8)
6 0x7bc71d8e RtlRaiseException+0x21() in ntdll (0x0032ffc8)
7 0x7bc49f4e call_dll_entry_point+0x61d() in ntdll (0x0032ffe8)
0x00401df9: movl     0x3c(%ecx),%edx
Modules:
Module     Address               Debug info     Name (22 modules)
PE      400000- 4bb000     Export photoupz
ELF     20000000-2008d000     Deferred msvcrt
\\-PE     20010000-2008d000     \\ msvcrt
ELF     415ba000-415e9000     Deferred msvcr90
\\-PE     415c0000-415e9000     \\ msvcr90
ELF     502a6000-5038b000     Deferred msvcp90
\\-PE     502d0000-5038b000     \\ msvcp90
ELF     68000000-68142000     Dwarf libwine.so.1
ELF     68142000-6815d000     Deferred libpthread.so.0
ELF     6815d000-68307000     Deferred libc.so.6
ELF     68307000-6830c000     Deferred libdl.so.2
ELF     6830c000-68338000     Deferred libm.so.6
ELF     68338000-68341000     Deferred libnss_compat.so.2
ELF     68341000-6834d000     Deferred libnss_nis.so.2
ELF     6834d000-6835a000     Deferred libnss_files.so.2
ELF     6ccca000-6ccec000     Deferred ld-linux.so.2
ELF     78a2d000-78a47000     Deferred libnsl.so.1
ELF     7b800000-7ba15000     Dwarf kernel32
\\-PE     7b810000-7ba15000     \\ kernel32
ELF     7bc00000-7bcc3000     Dwarf ntdll
\\-PE     7bc10000-7bcc3000     \\ ntdll
ELF     7bf00000-7bf04000     Deferred
Threads:
process tid prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 PhotoUpz.exe
     00000009 0
0000000e services.exe
     0000001f 0
     0000001e 0
     00000015 0
     00000010 0
     0000000f 0
00000012 winedevice.exe
     0000001c 0
     00000019 0
     00000014 0
     00000013 0
0000001a plugplay.exe
     00000020 0
     0000001d 0
     0000001b 0
00000021 winedbg.exe
     00000022 0
00000023 explorer.exe
     00000024 0
00000027 (D) C:\\Program Files\\Photoupz\\PhotoUpz.exe
     00000028 0 <==

I really do appreciate this!
Ronin DUSETTE Wednesday 13 March 2013 at 17:37
Ronin DUSETTE
Admin

Ok. So, right off the bat, you need to install a prerequisite. It looks as though its wanting to use Visual C++ Runtime.

When you install, POL will ask if you want to install any additional software. Check that box, and look for the package:

vcrun2008

Try that one, and try to re-run the program.

If that doesnt work, try

vcrun2005

This is telling me that you need vcruntime

ELF 20000000-2008d000 Deferred msvcrt
\\-PE 20010000-2008d000 \\ msvcrt
ELF 415ba000-415e9000 Deferred msvcr90
\\-PE 415c0000-415e9000 \\ msvcr90
ELF 502a6000-5038b000 Deferred msvcp90
\\-PE 502d0000-5038b000 \\ msvcp90

msvcrt = Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime

Hope this helps

PS: This is NOT a package from your package manager. It is to be install actually within and using PlayOnLinux. 

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booman Friday 15 March 2013 at 0:09
booman

I usually install these packages before installing any non-listed game:
vcrun2005
netframework3.0
d3dx9
corefonts

Usually if a game doesn't install, its because a service is missing that installs them.
A lot of games use netframework and visual C

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Ronin DUSETTE Friday 15 March 2013 at 0:16
Ronin DUSETTE
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I usually install these packages before installing any non-listed game:
vcrun2005
netframework3.0
d3dx9
corefonts

Usually if a game doesn't install, its because a service is missing that installs them.
A lot of games use netframework and visual C

Quote from booman

Yup yup. This is true. d3d, vcruntime, and .net are almost always needed.

But, you should not just install all of that right off the bat. I have run quite a few games that work terribly with this stuff installed.

Its always good to do a dry run, in a fresh wineprefix, and then see what you actually need, instead of doing it for good measure. Though, I have done the same thing, and have had success, its not good practice, as wine should be able to handle a lot of this stuff, and mono should be able to handle the rest (in a perfect world. lol).

If they manage to get this stuff working without installing scripted prerequisites  you wouldnt know, as you already installed other stuff.  Not to mention, that if your specific version of wine includes wine-mono installed with it, then installing .net can make things wonky.

As long as it works for you, dynamite. :) Any port in a storm, right? haha

But as a general rule of thumb for troubleshooting, when having issues (with any program, games included), you should try a fresh, basic, default install, and then, if you have issues and need to post about it, we can have you post the logs to the original fresh install, and troubleshoot from there, to make sure that you have ONLY what you need. You would be surprised what wine can handle on its own. lol. 

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deafy Friday 15 March 2013 at 8:51
deafyAnonymous

sorry for not replying sooner ... I have been ill and wasn't able to do anything ... will be going thru your mails and work on this tomorrow ... I truly appreciate your help!
Just thought to let you know.
deafy Friday 15 March 2013 at 16:54
deafyAnonymous

am trying to upgrade the wine and have found 1.5.24 on POL site
how do I download that?

tried to find it thru the install program on POL nothing ... same for vcrun2008/2005
do I find it online in same manner as what I did with finding this wine version?

will go thru your list and see what I can do
Ronin DUSETTE Friday 15 March 2013 at 18:05
Ronin DUSETTE
Admin

Nope. Its all inside the PlayOnLinux program.

If you want to install new wine versions, open POL, and click TOOLS, then Manage Wine Versions.

There you can go through a list of 32 and 64 bit wine versions, and install them to your computer with a single click. :)

As for the install programs on POL, its very simple. When you click INSTALL, then click INSTALL A NON-LISTED PROGRAM at the bottom of the install screen, it will take you through a few steps; one of which, it gives you some checkboxes. These checkboxes ask if you want to configure wine, install additional programs, and another one. If you choose INSTALL ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE, it will bring you to a list of software, which have the vcrun packages and whatnot in there.

AFTER you have created a WINEPREFIX, you can click CONFIGURE, select the name of the WINEPREFIX, then click Install Components. There is the same list that you can install vcrun and everything else on.

Click around and explore the POL app more. Alot of the stuff is clearly listed, and straightforward.

Hope you feel better. I just got over being sick, as well. :/

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deafy Sunday 17 March 2013 at 6:29
deafyAnonymous

ok did what you said
after "install additional program"
it gave me a box "select a file" (no list of software)
???
Ronin DUSETTE Monday 18 March 2013 at 16:56
Ronin DUSETTE
Admin

You have to be clicking the wrong thing. Its as simple as that. Its one of the main features when installing software. You must be clicking "Configure Wine", and not the "Configure" button.

Open POL, click Configure (notice where my mouse pointer is:



Next, click the wineprefix/virtual drive that you want to add components to:



Now, click the "Install Components" tab:



There is the list of dependencies you can install. This is one way to get to the list. The other is to do it from the Install Menu, but this works just as well. 

Hope this clarifies a bit. 

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deafy Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 14:43
deafyAnonymous

yes it did clear things up and I did the list you gave me
NetFramework 3.0 did not show up, but 1.1 did
should I use it or I guess you have to guide me again with this one.

Ronin DUSETTE Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 15:42
Ronin DUSETTE
Admin

The 3.0 framework is called:

dotnet30

They are all named like that. For instance, .NET 4.0:

dotnet40

Although, I would try installing Mono 2.10 from that list first, and see if that works, before trying .NET.

Just make sure you only use one or the other. Mono and real .Net dont play well together.

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deafy Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 16:27
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well I installed the mono 210, and it still has that error
I guess I will have to remove it and go for the dotnet30
how do I remove it?
Ronin DUSETTE Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 16:45
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If you do that, Im almost positive it will make matters worse.

Create a new Virtual Drive, and start fresh, installing dotnet30 instead of mono.

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deafy Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 18:04
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photoupz still does not work ... the e-sword still works fine
I am just about to give up on this PhotoUpz and uninstall it
But have a feeling I just should go by your advice
Ronin DUSETTE Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 18:11
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Yeah. Try it on a fresh one. Run playonlinux from the command line, try it with dotnet30, and post the results.

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deafy Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 18:28
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"fresh one" meaning ?
"Run playonlinux from the command line" ... are you talking about in terminal? or ?
"try it with dotnet30" how???

I guess I am a real dumb novice!
I can see you working at light speed cuz u are real familiar with this ... I am not ... (sorry)
Ronin DUSETTE Wednesday 20 March 2013 at 18:35
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"Fresh one" = Fresh install. New virtual drive. New WINEPREFIX. Please re-read the documentation for POL if this is not clear, as its a major part of how PlayOnLinux runs.

"Run playonlinux from the command line" = run the command playonlinux in a terminal. Usually in "Accessories" in your application menu. Its a command prompt, ie, text on a black screen.

"try it with dotnet30" = We JUST went through this. I even posted screenshots on how to find the dotnet30 install script, as well as all of the rest of the scripts. Dont call yourself dumb. You are just new to this. But you need to take care to read the instructions for this software so that you have an understanding of how it works, and also re-read the instructions posted above.

Im not working at light-speed. hahahaha. Just read a little more carefully. Its very straightforward. :)

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booman Friday 22 March 2013 at 0:02
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Yup yup. This is true. d3d, vcruntime, and .net are almost always needed.

But, you should not just install all of that right off the bat. I have run quite a few games that work terribly with this stuff installed.

Its always good to do a dry run, in a fresh wineprefix, and then see what you actually need, instead of doing it for good measure. Though, I have done the same thing, and have had success, its not good practice, as wine should be able to handle a lot of this stuff, and mono should be able to handle the rest (in a perfect world. lol).

If they manage to get this stuff working without installing scripted prerequisites  you wouldnt know, as you already installed other stuff.  Not to mention, that if your specific version of wine includes wine-mono installed with it, then installing .net can make things wonky.

As long as it works for you, dynamite. :) Any port in a storm, right? haha

But as a general rule of thumb for troubleshooting, when having issues (with any program, games included), you should try a fresh, basic, default install, and then, if you have issues and need to post about it, we can have you post the logs to the original fresh install, and troubleshoot from there, to make sure that you have ONLY what you need. You would be surprised what wine can handle on its own. lol. 

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Good points!
Honestly I've sucessully ran 40+ games with those typical packages and rarely have an issue.  I actually have more issues with the provided scripts in PlayOnLinux.  Sometimes they works, sometimes they don't.  I know some of them are beta.
But, most of the time I do a "manual installation" and stick to my directx, vcrun & dotnet 3.0 and most game run GREAT.
I'm actually doing a bunch of tutorials on how to install and configure PC Games.

By the way, does the forum have notifications?  I had no idea you replied to my post...

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