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Oh really?  I didn't see a lot of posts about Qt5 breaking Windows as well.
I will continue searching for those results

I don't get the QT5 error anymore with 1.7.28-FindFirstFile 32-bit, set to Windows 7. It works fine. It just crashes when trying to download the client. That is the error that I am talking about. 

Yeah, the "no connection" something or other...

And there is nothing in the debug that errors about connection except something about DHCP.  But I see that error all the time.

There is a chance QT5 isn't the major problem at all.  Just like the Origin and Battle.net clients.  They run fine with the Windows XP setting.

It does the same thing on WinXP with that same Wine version. There are/were 2 issues; the QT5 issue, which is corrected by that particular Wine version set to Win7, and the "no connection" thing. That is what I could not find. I give up, though. haha. I don't really know where else to look.

Agreed!
I guess I could post something on WineHQ's...

There are hundreds of people playing Drakensang on Linux, so it should be able to get Wine Dev's attention

Wow, the Drakensang forums close threads "Like there is no tomorrow"

Any old thread about linux is closed and I can't reply.  They even removed the link to my posts here.  It appears there aren't so many people playing Drakensang in Linux anymore, but I know they are out there.

By the way, apparently you can still play Drakensang through the browse with Java.  I used to do it a long time ago, but the newer thinclient always worked much better.

I'm not exactly sure how to do this in Linux, but I know Java is already installed in my Mint 17.

I also read that the new clients use a "preload" ability while launching the game.  Some people just don't update their client and use the old ones by ignoring the preload.

I wonder if the older clients still use Qt4?

You can do it through Java, but I image that you need to install a user-agent switcher, so it thinks you are running on Windows. 

The older clients probably won't connect to the server, but it is worth a shot. 

I saw that in their forums, as well. They are probably tired of people coming in and trying to get help with it through Wine, which I understand, but the users forums are for users, so one would hope they would keep it open. Perhaps you can try to appeal to one of the moderators?

I'm going to try anything at this point.  Otherwise, I'm taking my guide down.  I don't want to mislead people when its not working.

I wouldn't take it down. I would just put up a notice at the top that says that it is not working, and when it is fixed, you will update it. Let me know when/if you discover a fix, and I will script it up after you update your guide, too. That way we cover all bases. :)

I read that some people had problems with the preloading because there was mutliple drakensang exe's running in the processes.  They tried killing them and then launching again.

I think our current problem is the preloading.  We don't want to preload and its automatic.

Some different results with Wine 1.7.31

The QT6 error is gone now but the game still refuses to launch and/or update.
I added vcrun2010 and winhttp but no changes as of yet...

Here is my debug:

[11/16/14 21:07:37] - Running wine-1.7.31 thinclient.exe (Working directory : /home/booman/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/drakensang/drive_c/Program Files/Drakensang Online)
p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation (nil) 1 (nil) 0
fixme:file:FindFirstFileExW flags not implemented 0x00000002
fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub!
fixme:file:FindFirstFileExW flags not implemented 0x00000002
fixme:ole:RemUnknown_QueryInterface No interface for iid {00000019-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub
fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet

Do you think there is a chance Drakensang is using GnuTLS instead of SSL to update their game?

Does Wine support this?

Here is the error I get when the game doesn't update:

Download error: url=http://www.drakensang.com/applet/app.n3app.nz2?__cv=bccfb71efb0e8a28c00, code=2, msg=Connection closed

Edited by booman

From that error, there is no encryption at all (no https). The problem is, that url gives a closed connection, and it is for sure trying to download some sort of applet, but I have no idea what. Plus, I cannot find any debug flags that might give more info as to why exactly it was closed. I have to imagine it is closing on their end. If you click that link you can download that .nz2 file (whatever that is), but I am not sure why, during the actual program itself, it will not connect. Perhaps, if we can find out how to grab that file during download, and download it manually, then put it wherever it wants to go, that might work, but is not ideal at all. 

That file is a Nebula3 file.  They must have a browser applet format called .nz2

This is not Java based either.  You "can" run Drakensang via browser with Java, but not in Linux.

Drakensang Online is still NOT working even with Wine 1.7.33

I am getting some new output errors as well:

[Tue Dec 23 19:32:28 2014] Warning: Started Thinclient init ...
fixme:file:FindFirstFileExW flags not implemented 0x00000002
fixme:ole:RemUnknown_QueryInterface No interface for iid {00000019-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub
fixme:winhttp:get_system_proxy_autoconfig_url no support on this platform
fixme:winhttp:WinHttpDetectAutoProxyConfigUrl discovery via DHCP not supported
[Tue Dec 23 19:32:29 2014] Warning: Thinclient init complete ...
[Tue Dec 23 19:32:31 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/js/recaptcha_ajax.js 200 OK
[Tue Dec 23 19:32:39 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://drasaonline-481.level3.bpcdn.net/mini/script/main.js?__cv=e3ab68f89520d9ac6fb5744e18fa4400 200 OK
[Tue Dec 23 19:33:02 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://www.drakensang.com/sharedpages/static/plugin/social/slayer/js/v1/en/slayer-min.js?__cv=8e1465729ed7ddf86572d16ff1fb4400 200 OK
[Tue Dec 23 19:33:14 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://drasaonline-481.level3.bpcdn.net/images/img_buttons/tc_btn_login_a.png?__cv=33c4a4dfcf5e5894d7442b4a4811bf00 200 OK
[Tue Dec 23 19:33:18 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://eventstream-829-weblog-02.bigpoint.net/img.gif?event=js.submit&generator=jsA967&pid=481&tid=d1dd6ebea8066c83f5949d4103399bc4&iid=d8bd7b3f077ba[Tue Dec 23 19:33:18 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://eventstream-829-weblog-02.bigpoint.net/img.gif?event=js.change&generator=jsA967&pid=481&tid=d1dd6ebea8066c83f5949d4103399bc4&iid=d8bd7b3f077ba[Tue Dec 23 19:33:18 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://eventstream-829-weblog-02.bigpoint.net/img.gif?event=js.click&generator=jsA967&pid=481&tid=d1dd6ebea8066c83f5949d4103399bc4&iid=d8bd7b3f077baf[Tue Dec 23 19:33:18 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://drasaonline-481.level3.bpcdn.net/images/img_buttons/tc_btn_login_b.png?__cv=1a5431bfc5d05e73651df3cb3f4f4c00 200 OK
[Tue Dec 23 19:33:27 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/js/recaptcha_ajax.js 200 OK
[Tue Dec 23 19:33:35 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://drasaonline-481.level3.bpcdn.net/mini/script/main.js?__cv=e3ab68f89520d9ac6fb5744e18fa4400 200 OK
[Tue Dec 23 19:33:57 2014] Warning: Error loading: http://agathon.drakensang.com/sharedpages/static/plugin/social/slayer/js/v1/en/slayer-min.js?__cv=8e1465729ed7ddf86572d16ff1fb4400 200 OK
fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet

Edited by booman

Also, when I kill the Drakensang Login window I get these fixme:

fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xfb3414) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xf7640c) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xf5b32c) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xbdcdc4) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xc46c4c) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xc02784) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x63039df4) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x653efe24) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x10f813cc) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x3fc3ec) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xba2ab4) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xb726ec) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x62024744) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xb3fe6c) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x7a69cc) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0xa978d4) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x3dadbc) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x66237444) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x640bcdd4) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x673c57f4) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x4aaa1b74) stub
fixme:msvcrt:__clean_type_info_names_internal (0x5aaaec) stub

I tried the msvc100, mscrt overrides, but it didn't help.

Ronin, check out this Python Script:  https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=49988&action=edit

This is specifically for the slow network problems in Origin, but do you think it might have any impact on our Drakensang problem?

tried Drakensang with vcrun2012 libraries.  Same sypmtoms when set as Windows 7.  when setting as Windows XP, I can't even get a login screen:

[01/08/15 06:40:37] - Running wine-1.7.33 thinclient.exe (Working directory : /home/booman/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/drakensang/drive_c/Program Files/Drakensang Online)
p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/p11-kit-trust.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation (nil) 1 (nil) 0
fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub!
[Thu Jan 8 06:40:40 2015] Warning: Started Thinclient init ...
fixme:ole:RemUnknown_QueryInterface No interface for iid {00000019-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub
fixme:winhttp:get_system_proxy_autoconfig_url no support on this platform
fixme:winhttp:WinHttpDetectAutoProxyConfigUrl discovery via DHCP not supported
[Thu Jan 8 06:40:40 2015] Warning: Thinclient init complete ...
[Thu Jan 8 06:40:51 2015] Warning: Error loading: http://drasaonline-481.level3.bpcdn.net/mini/script/main.js?__cv=e3ab68f89520d9ac6fb5744e18fa4400 200 OK
[Thu Jan 8 06:41:13 2015] Warning: Error loading: http://www.drakensang.com/sharedpages/static/plugin/social/slayer/js/v1/en/slayer-min.js?__cv=8e1465729ed7ddf86572d16ff1fb4400 200 OK