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kajillin Vrijdag 8 Augustus 2008 om 16:22
kajillinAnonymous

this is the error i get



Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
playonlinux: Depends: python-wxgtk2.8 but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

are the packages realy broken?

then i try to install python-wxgtk2.8 manually and i get this


python-wxgtk2.8:
Depends: python (<2.5) but 2.5.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed

anyone know wtf is going on?
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isotrone Zaterdag 3 Januari 2009 om 22:09
isotroneAnonymous

I've got the same problem...
Loki Vrijdag 16 Januari 2009 om 14:52
LokiAnonymous

Won't install for me either. Because of the dead link for the PCLinuxOS version, I downloaded the generic version. The instructions make one think it's so simple. Just type ./playonlinux in a terminal. Right. Not quite so simple guys. Here's my terminal.

[loki@localhost playonlinux]$ ./playonlinux
/home/loki/Desktop/PlayOnLinux_3.2.2/playonlinux/lib/variables: line 81: gettext.sh: No such file or directory
which: no lzma in (/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/qt3/bin:/home/loki/bin:/usr/lib/qt3/bin)
/home/loki/Desktop/PlayOnLinux_3.2.2/playonlinux/lib/check_depend: line 44: eval_gettext: command not found
/home/loki/Desktop/PlayOnLinux_3.2.2/playonlinux/lib/interface: line 135: eval_gettext: command not found
/home/loki/.gtkrc-2.0:56: Clearlooks configuration option "menuitemstyle" is not supported and will be ignored.
/home/loki/.gtkrc-2.0:57: Clearlooks configuration option "listviewitemstyle" is not supported and will be ignored.
/home/loki/.gtkrc-2.0:58: Clearlooks configuration option "progressbarstyle" is not supported and will be ignored.
/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:42: Invalid symbolic color 'fg_color'
/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:42: error: invalid identifier `fg_color', expected valid identifier
[loki@localhost playonlinux]$


I would really like to use PlayOnLinux. It looks like a great project, but this isn't very helpful, and there isn't really any sort of step-by-step walkthrough on this site. I read elsewhere that your priority right now is the internationalization of the project, but really, shouldn't your priority be making sure that those who can find and download the package, are able to get it to work? Otherwise, all your going to accomplish with internationalization is giving yourselves a bad rep globally, instead of in only one or two countries.

I'm far from an expert with Linux, and I barely know how to use a terminal. If a website doesn't give me the exact command to type in the terminal, I'm lost. I can find my way around the GUI just fine, but I'm lost on scripting. This is one of the reasons why Linux doesn't have a larger share of the global desktop market. M$ users are scared to try it because they know absolutely nothing about scripting, and as friendly as Linux has become in recent years, there are still times when one must use a terminal. At least if full instructions were available for newbies, it wouldn't be so scary.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated, but I would really like to see an area on the site with full instructions, so that, on the off chance that a complete Linux newbie and recent convert happens to come here for a good way to install their games, it will be just as easy for them as it was to install them in Windows.

Rant off. Thanks in advance for any help that can be provided.
marieuh Vrijdag 16 Januari 2009 om 18:55
marieuh

Hi Loki,

First of all, it sounds like a dependency problem.
you see, in order for playonlinux to run properly, some dependencies must be observed.
Please make sure those packages are installed as well:

wine, wget, unzip, lynx, xterm, ImageMagick, et python-wxgtk (python2.5-wxgtk2.8) and according to your graphic environment you will need either Zenity or kdialog.

Once all those dependencies are installed, proceed to pol's installation.

now:

Won't install for me either. Because of the dead link for the PCLinuxOS version, I downloaded the generic version. The instructions make one think it's so simple. Just type ./playonlinux in a terminal. Right. Not quite so simple guys. Here's my terminal.

Quote from Loki

hello maybe?

I read elsewhere that your priority right now is the internationalization of the project, but really, shouldn't your priority be making sure that those who can find and download the package, are able to get it to work?

Quote from Loki

it took me about 15 minutes to do my research and find out what "might" be wrong with your log, you could have done the same too. that apart, most people are able to get it to work.
You interest in the priority of this project is very touching thank you.


This is one of the reasons why Linux doesn't have a larger share of the global desktop market. M$ users are scared to try it because they know absolutely nothing about scripting, and as friendly as Linux has become in recent years, there are still times when one must use a terminal. At least if full instructions were available for newbies, it wouldn't be so scary.

Quote from Loki

Thank you for your insight but seriously, ranting about how not user friendly linux is just because you can't get a application installed ... it's simply just pure hypocrisy (that's how I see it) you installed Linux and you knew perfectly well that not everything would have been pre-chewed for you. I'm not an expert scriptor not I am a computer engineer and it took me a while to get used to my system but never in my wildest dream have I even thought of ranting about it in the forum of a project that is here to try and make things a little easier...
If something didn't work, it was propably due to something I overlooked and so I kept looking until I found.
The mere thought of writing to a staff of people doing what they can to make things easier and tell them "hey, i'm new, i don't know of this works and am not interested in getting to know my system well enough to help myself... do the work for me ... please " is giving me the creeps.
And alright you are taking for all those who posted something like this before you.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated, but I would really like to see an area on the site with full instructions, so that, on the off chance that a complete Linux newbie and recent convert happens to come here for a good way to install their games, it will be just as easy for them as it was to install them in Windows.

Quote from Loki

the documentation is being rewritten ... once again, lots of work, limited staff with limited free time.

Thanks in advance for any help that can be provided.

Quote from Loki

you are welcome...

and there is no need to troll about windows being more user-friendly than Linux, such post will be deleted.
Also, no need to rant about the response to your rant. read it and you will acknowledge the tone was seriously inappropriate for someone who came asking for help.
that is all

If there is a problem, fill out complaint form and place it in an envelope addressed to the name of the hospital in which you were born....
Loki Zaterdag 17 Januari 2009 om 8:20
LokiAnonymous

So all a person has to do is seem insulting to finally get a reply around here, is that it? Did you happen to notice the dates on the first two posts in this thread? Aug 8, 2008, and Jan 3, 2009. 5 months somebody has been waiting for a reply, and I come along, push a few buttons, get your dander up, and you reply instantly. Amazing.

wine, wget, unzip, lynx, xterm, ImageMagick, et python-wxgtk (python2.5-wxgtk2.8) and according to your graphic environment you will need either Zenity or kdialog.

Once all those dependencies are installed, proceed to pol's installation.

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And I was supposed to know that how? It isn't stated anywhere on the site that I could find, and your forum doesn't have a search feature. Thank you for telling me that now, but dependencies should be listed somewhere on the site.

ranting about how not user friendly linux is just because you can't get a application installed

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I'm not saying that Linux isn't user-friendly. I'm saying that, to a total Windows user, considering the switch, it is not as friendly as it could be. Don't get me wrong. I am a die-hard FOSS supporter, and am trying to make the switch completely, and dump M$. I'm not knocking Linux. I'm simply stating how a relatively computer-illiterate Windows user would see Linux. Until our community is capable of playing Devil's Advocate, and seeing Linux from a WIndows user's point of view, we will never be able to make strides in our desktop market share. Quit taking things like this as insults, and take them, instead, as prods to do better, to make the software more user-friendly.

"hey, i'm new, i don't know of this works and am not interested in getting to know my system well enough to help myself... do the work for me ... please " is giving me the creeps.

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Well, it may give you the creeps, but get used to it, because it's the predominant attitude of most computer-illiterate M$ users. Anybody who knows me could tell you that it does not describe me at all. I don't expect somebody else to do my work. But it is the way most M$ users think, and the way they feel when confronted by something they know nothing about. If I were a die-hard M$ user, considering Linux for the first time, and looking into PlayOnLinux as one of my options for gaming, I would have given up and gone back to Windows after that list of errors in the terminal.

the documentation is being rewritten ... once again, lots of work, limited staff with limited free time.

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Well, I'm glad it's being written, but honestly, it should have been written with the release of the project. If that statement leaves a sour taste in your mouth, perhaps you should examine your target audience, and determine for yourself the truth, or lack thereof, in that statement. I realize you have limited staff, and they are volunteers, and if I have made anybody feel unappreciated for their efforts, I do offer heartfelt apologies. I truly appreciate what volunteers do in a project of this magnitude, but without documentation, you've put the cart before the horse.

there is no need to troll about windows being more user-friendly than Linux

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One off-hand remark about how a lifelong Windows user might view Linux is hardly "trolling". In fact, I find the KDE GUI much more user-friendly than Windows. Again, I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, and telling you how we (the Linux community) often appear to Windows users. If you choose to delete that, then I will know exactly where you stand on the issue of free speech, and will discontinue any use of your project. Believe it or not, I have gotten many of my games to work simply using Wine, in the past. I wanted to try your project because it appears to me that it might be an excellent Linux gaming solution for the masses, not just the technically-inclined, and that's what our community needs, in order to seriously attract Windows users into converting. We need to stop seeing ourselves as superusers and pros, and start seeing ourselves how non-power users see us, and start seeing our operating systems how non-power users see them. Only then will we be able to attract those users.

you will acknowledge the tone was seriously inappropriate

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There was no "tone" in my original post, other than what you yourself perceived. It is text. Letters on a screen. The only tone is what the reader perceives. And no, I don't think my original post was inappropriate. As I have stated several times, it was intended to make you see how frustrating and futile this would seem to somebody who may be considering converting from Windows. If you're not able to take a little constructive criticism on the structure of the project, you may wish to consider another line of work. Not everybody will phrase their criticisms in as friendly a manner as I did. And not everybody will stick around, after having their hands slapped by you. If you want to develop a large community of users, you need to first develop thicker skin.

All that having been said, I wish to reiterate that I truly do appreciate everything that all of you are trying to do with this project, and I wish you great success in your endeavours. I simply believe that the documentation should have been written to coincide with the project's release. This is quite obviously a project designed to make for an easy switch from M$ to Linux, but it does not quite accomplish that. Yet. And I'm sure it will, given time, and your continued dedication to making it happen.
marieuh Zaterdag 17 Januari 2009 om 12:17
marieuh

Well, you'll excuse me if I didn't read your whole post, I'm not interested in arguing at all.
I think I read at least 50 posts like yours in the last month on the various linux related forums I regularly check out... it's just tiring after a while.
The dependencies would have been installed had it been possible for you to install the package for your operating system, unfortunately the link is broken and there's not much we can do about that

There is a documentation, it is being rewritten.

I'm not responding because of the "insult" though ... if you go look around the site, you'll find out my role here is merely of translating the project.
I jumped on my high horse (i admit) because it's got to be the third post about missing documentation this week ... just when I set out to rewrite it
I did make an effort though to look for the error in your console ... and I'm probably just as illiterate as you are, I just really don't like it when new users compare their problems with the one they had (or did not have) on Windows.
The system is completely different and it takes time getting used to. I guess I'm just not normal but when I was still a new user, I actually enjoyed problems like these, it gave me the opportunity to mingle with the system, get my hands a little dirty and I just felt very proud when a problem was finally solved.
It's probably my mistake to assume every new user feels the same way about it, I'm just naive that way

that being said, did the install work with all the dependencies obvservedd ?

If there is a problem, fill out complaint form and place it in an envelope addressed to the name of the hospital in which you were born....
Ghostofkendo Zaterdag 17 Januari 2009 om 21:36
Ghostofkendo

Hello Loki,

What an animated topic!

Like marieuh just said, did you finally manage to run POL? Because that's what matter.

About the PCLinuxOS package, it did search a little bit and it seems that there is a package available in PCLOS' official repository but sadly, that's a too old version (and we can't do anything about it, we're not the maintainers of this package).

Bye
UdivI Donderdag 4 Juni\ 2009 om 19:30
UdivIAnonymous

Hey Kendo (and others),

In short i'm running PcLinuxOS and tailermade versions of various packages including Wine. I'm trying to run POL and the depencies described above where a great help, cause when downloading the generic version of POL it didn't much at all. After the right dependencies it did some more... *grin*

So, i'm as far as Loki described above and i get the same errors on my console and a window popup with some cabextract error exclamation.

I did a little research and maybe you can help me out. The first error message when i run ./playonlinux is

playonlinux/lib/variables: line 81: gettext.sh: No such file or directory

I did a quick find on my system but somehow the 'gettext.sh' file is missing. The call is made from lib/variables. Is there a possible chance that this file is missing in the generic POL package, what does this shellscript and can it be the problem?

Any help i appreciate and if there are other leads i can follow, it will be welcome too!!

~CheerZ~
UdivI Vrijdag 5 Juni\ 2009 om 0:13
UdivIAnonymous

Hey there,

Problem solved on my PcLinuxOS.
I missed the 'gettext' package, which includes the above gettext.sh and other files that this script is needed.
And in my case, i needed also to install the package 'cabextract'.

After that it works, like a charm as usual on linux ;-)

--
GreetZ & Keep up the good work!!!
Ghostofkendo Zondag 7 Juni\ 2009 om 20:24
Ghostofkendo

Hi Udivl,

Problem solved on my PcLinuxOS.
I missed the 'gettext' package, which includes the above gettext.sh and other files that this script is needed.
And in my case, i needed also to install the package 'cabextract'.

Quote from UdivI
I didn't even have time to answer that you already found the solution. :D
So cabextract and gettext are dependencies of POL, it's just that it don't check that gettext is installed.

Bye

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