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Skookum Monday 27 April 2015 at 19:04
SkookumAnonymous

I don't know if this is an issue with the framerate, since I've set all possible graphics settings to the lowest setting possible. I first noticed this when I used PlayOnMac to play Skyrim on my Steam account. I thought it was just the game itself and that I would have to wait until I could get a Windows computer to actually play it. Then I decided to try Oblivion to see if I'd have the same problem. Turns out I did. It wasn't just these two games – it was every game I tried playing on Steam using PlayOnMac. I don't think it's an issue with my computer, because all the games on my Mac version of Steam work just fine, but I could be wrong.

 

I'm at my wit's end trying to fix this problem myself. I went to Steam forums to figure out how to fix framerate issues. I set all graphics settings on every game to the absolute minimum. I even tried tweaking some settings with PlayOnMac itself. (Note: When I did this, it gave me the following message upon trying to open several games: "Failed to initialize renderer. Pixel and Vertex Shader versions incorrect. Requires a Geforce4 4400 or Radeon 8500 or better." This one may be completely unrelated to PlayOnMac itself, but I feel I should include it just to be sure.) Can anyone give me some pointers as to how I can fix this, or am I just going to have to wait a few years and buy a proper gaming computer? 

Ronin DUSETTE Monday 27 April 2015 at 19:29
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What are your computer specs? 


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Skookum Monday 27 April 2015 at 19:35
SkookumAnonymous

1.3 GHz Intel Core i5 processor

4GB Memory 1600 MHz DDR3

Intel HD Graphics 5000 1536 MB

I don't know if it matters much, but I'm running on a MacBook Air. I feel like that may be the problem. But like I said, Mac version Steam games work perfectly, so I don't know. :|

Ronin DUSETTE Monday 27 April 2015 at 19:42
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That is odd. I mean, it is not a powerhouse, but you should be able to run just fine on there. If it works natively just fine with Steam, then it shouldn't be terrible on POM. Could you post the debug logs? Maybe it will clue us in to what is causing that. I have an Intel GPU in my laptop that is nowhere near as nice as yours and I don't have issues like that, so it may be a drivers issue or something. 


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Skookum Monday 27 April 2015 at 19:44
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Here's exactly what it spat out when I hit debug on POM:

 

kpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

[04/24/15 12:14:31] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

[04/24/15 12:14:37] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

[0424/121503:ERROR:network_change_notifier_win.cc(174)] WSALookupServiceBegin failed with: 8

 

[0424/121503:ERROR:gpu_info_collector_win.cc(103)] Can't retrieve a valid WinSAT assessment.

 

[0424/121505:ERROR:network_change_notifier_win.cc(174)] WSALookupServiceBegin failed with: 8

 

[0424/121505:ERROR:gpu_info_collector_win.cc(103)] Can't retrieve a valid WinSAT assessment.

 

[0424/121514:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(227)] Running without renderer sandbox

 

[04/24/15 12:15:34] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

Looks like steam didn't shutdown cleanly, scheduling immediate update check

 

[04/24/15 12:15:50] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

[0424/121553:ERROR:network_change_notifier_win.cc(174)] WSALookupServiceBegin failed with: 8

 

[0424/121553:ERROR:gpu_info_collector_win.cc(103)] Can't retrieve a valid WinSAT assessment.

 

[0424/121816:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(227)] Running without renderer sandbox

 

[04/27/15 11:12:07] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

[04/27/15 11:12:11] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

[0427/111246:ERROR:network_change_notifier_win.cc(174)] WSALookupServiceBegin failed with: 8

 

[0427/111247:ERROR:gpu_info_collector_win.cc(103)] Can't retrieve a valid WinSAT assessment.

 

[0427/111306:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(227)] Running without renderer sandbox

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

wineserver crashed, please enable coredumps (ulimit -c unlimited) and restart.

[04/27/15 11:44:21] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

[0427/114429:ERROR:network_change_notifier_win.cc(174)] WSALookupServiceBegin failed with: 8

 

[0427/114429:ERROR:gpu_info_collector_win.cc(103)] Can't retrieve a valid WinSAT assessment.

 

[0427/114446:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(227)] Running without renderer sandbox

 

[04/27/15 11:53:59] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:53:59] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"UseGLSL"="disabled"

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[04/27/15 11:54:08] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:54:08] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"DirectDrawRenderer"="gdi"

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[04/27/15 11:54:11] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:54:11] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"VideoMemorySize"="32"

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[04/27/15 11:54:15] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:54:15] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"OffscreenRenderingMode"="fbo"

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[04/27/15 11:54:18] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:54:18] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"RenderTargetModeLock"="disabled"

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[04/27/15 11:54:21] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:54:21] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"Multisampling"="disabled"

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[04/27/15 11:54:23] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:54:23] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"StrictDrawOrdering"="disabled"

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[04/27/15 11:54:36] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

[0427/115452:ERROR:network_change_notifier_win.cc(174)] WSALookupServiceBegin failed with: 8

 

[0427/115452:ERROR:gpu_info_collector_win.cc(103)] Can't retrieve a valid WinSAT assessment.

 

[0427/115508:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(227)] Running without renderer sandbox

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

[04/27/15 11:57:29] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:57:29] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"StrictDrawOrdering"="disabled"

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[04/27/15 11:57:35] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:57:35] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"Multisampling"="disabled"

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[04/27/15 11:57:39] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:57:39] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"RenderTargetModeLock"="disabled"

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[04/27/15 11:57:45] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:57:45] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"VideoMemorySize"="32"

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[04/27/15 11:57:51] - Running wine-1.7.33 regedit /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

[04/27/15 11:57:51] - Content of /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac//tmp/regkey.reg

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REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D]

"UseGLSL"="disabled"

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[04/27/15 11:58:16] - Running wine-1.7.33 winecfg (Working directory : /Applications/PlayOnMac.app/Contents/Resources/playonlinux/python)

fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 24000 (device=2 access=1 func=0 method=0)

fixme:msg:pack_message msg 14 (WM_ERASEBKGND) not supported yet

[04/27/15 11:59:13] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

[0427/115929:ERROR:network_change_notifier_win.cc(174)] WSALookupServiceBegin failed with: 8

 

[0427/115929:ERROR:gpu_info_collector_win.cc(103)] Can't retrieve a valid WinSAT assessment.

 

[0427/115946:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(227)] Running without renderer sandbox

 

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 72850

 

Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198106292672 [API loaded no]

 

[04/27/15 12:43:41] - Running wine-1.7.33 Steam.exe (Working directory : /Users/SkookumTheHyena/Library/PlayOnMac/wineprefix/Skookum_s_Steam/drive_c/Program Files/Steam)

fixme:ver:GetCurrentPackageId (0x33e4e0 0x0): stub

Ronin DUSETTE Monday 27 April 2015 at 20:24
Ronin DUSETTE

Hmm. Nothing in there is really sticking out. I am not sure at this point. Are there any updated graphics drivers for your system? That is just a guess, but it couldn't hurt to check. 


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Skookum Tuesday 28 April 2015 at 3:07
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Well, I ran a system update (which, I assume, means my graphics card is now uo-to-date), but it still gives me that issue about about the renderer thing that I mentioned in the first post when I try to open Skyrim (haven't checked that on the other games yet). I checked in my settings on it, and under the graphics adapter, it has selected, "WineD3D DirectDraw Emulation," and it doesn't even give me the option for my graphics adapter anymore. 

Ronin DUSETTE Tuesday 28 April 2015 at 3:29
Ronin DUSETTE

I don't think that rendering error is causing anything, as menacing as it may look. 

Can you show a screenshot of the settings you are talking about? I wish I had a mac in front of me so that I can could test it. lol. I need to get one this year just for stuff like this. ;)

I am not sure how to check to see if your graphics drivers are installed on OSX. It really should just do it through the system's update mechanism from what I understand.


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Skookum Tuesday 28 April 2015 at 3:43
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I'm trying to figure out how to attach an image to this thing. I don't know if there's actually a button for that on this particular forum. The only way I can think of is uploading it to my Facebook and linking it from there. Hehe... ^^;