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Why i can`t use old versions?

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DarthVictor Mercredi 13 Février 2013 à 22:49
DarthVictorAnonymous

I like more old versions because the newest version of PlayOnLinux are to bureaucratic and heavy. During one year, i never logged on windows because all applications that i need could be easily installed. Even CryEngine 3 and Visual Studio 2010. But now, i simple cant use only Linux. With old versions, games run easily and with good performance. Crysis 2 for example, run with only 45% of capacity of my CPU.



With newest versions, some configurations is to bureaucratic, but things like install the "prerequisites" like direct x still easy. During a simple gameplay, error messages usually disrupt(note that error message rarely is showed in a real crash) and the newest versions is much heavy compared old versions.

Not that PlayOnLinux is useless, since that i install Debian in 3 years, i never thought that i can use only linux and with PlayOnLinux, i can use only Linux for one year. The newest versions still good for some applications. But play an FPS with random error messages disturbing or install a application non listed with the bureaucracy. If anyone tell me how use old versions, i be very grateful. I have the old version package but If i install a old version, i can`t install anything without a update.
guyr Mardi 19 Février 2013 à 21:56
guyrAnonymous

With POL you can choose the wine version you want.
See Tools/Manage wine versions. From wine 0.9.7 to the current version (1.5.24).
But wine and PlayOnLinux are fare better today ...
If you want to see error message, i recommend to launch playonlinux from a terminal:
$ playonlinux

I recommend to install each windows software in a different wineprefix.
DarthVictor Mercredi 20 Février 2013 à 12:31
DarthVictorAnonymous

thanks, but i know how use wine old version. I like use old version of playOnLinux(not old version of wine) because as i said, the newest version is to bureaucratic and heavy. And if i use terminal to run PlayOnLinux, error messages will show anyway.

PlayOnLinux is more user friendly today but it don`t mean that the newest is better. PlayOnLinux is a good idea. Even that newest version is worse than old version, PlayOnLinux still best Wine front end in my opinion.

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xpander Mercredi 20 Février 2013 à 15:10
xpander

which versions you want?
http://repository.playonlinux.com/PlayOnLinux/4.x/

or http://repository.playonlinux.com/PlayOnLinux/


edit: Ahh the database updates dont work for old version and scripts are newer than older versions can accept. so i have no idea

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Quentin PÂRIS Mercredi 20 Février 2013 à 15:46
Quentin PÂRIS
Admin

PlayOnLinux is more user friendly today but it don`t mean that the newest is better. PlayOnLinux is a good idea. Even that newest version is worse than old version, PlayOnLinux still best Wine front end in my opinion.

Quote from DarthVictor


Really it is not a good idea to keep old version. Script langage evolves and versions are easier and easier both for us and for you.

If you find something wrong / disapointing with a new version, just tell us and we will find a way to make it better.
DarthVictor Jeudi 21 Février 2013 à 0:30
DarthVictorAnonymous

PlayOnLinux is more user friendly today but it don`t mean that the newest is better. PlayOnLinux is a good idea. Even that newest version is worse than old version, PlayOnLinux still best Wine front end in my opinion.

Quote from Tinou


Really it is not a good idea to keep old version. Script langage evolves and versions are easier and easier both for us and for you.

If you find something wrong / disapointing with a new version, just tell us and we will find a way to make it better.

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Thanks for u answer. It is impossible use old version because script language. Newest version probably have more functions and if i use old version, i can`t use any new function.

About suggestions, if is possible disable POL error messages, play an multiplier online or to test a best wine version for non listed application will be extreme more easy. About my reclamation about bureaucratic, is my fault, i don`t know how explain it but make the necessary configurations is more easy in newest versions. Anyway, thanks for you listen and help.

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petch Jeudi 21 Février 2013 à 1:29
petch
Développeur

Hi,


About suggestions, if is possible disable POL error messages, play an multiplier online or to test a best wine version for non listed application will be extreme more easy.

Quote from DarthVictor

I don't get that either, unless you start a program in debug mode the default mode in PlayOnLinux is still WINEDEBUG=-all, which should disable any logging from Wine.

Or you're talking about error dialog boxen that appear after a program crash, or simply games that do not know how to exit with exitcode 0 when they end normally, and you should try
POL_Shortcut_QuietDebug "Name of Shortcut"

in PlayOnLinux console to keep it quiet.
Maybe I didn't understand the issue, and we need more details to reproduce the problem.


Personally all I wish for newer versions, from "bulkiness" point of view, is a low and constant CPU usage. Right now it starts low (over 1%, but behind firefox and skype for sure :p), but after a while can raise up to 30% of one CPU for still unknown reasons. Profiling is difficult though.

Regards,
Pierre.

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